[NewCandle] Microwave'd ham

[Keith Nagel]

Hey Nick,

It's a little hard to tell how important the
undissolved crystals are. The volume of water is very
small to get cracking out of an ordinary consumer
microwave so the salt tends to come out of
solution pretty quickly. It's certainly
the case that water plus salt works whereas
water alone does not, and clean sand plus water
does not work. So at the moment I'm sticking
with my "conductive electrolyte" theory. But
as always, I'm looking to be proved wrong!

Let's hear about your plate experiments, Nick.
>From my own experiments I can tell you that a
practical electrolyser using very conductive
electrolytes requires some kind of edge seal to
isolate currents that want to flow around the
middle plates entirely. Ham may not have that
problem because he's using undoped ( very resistive ) water.

I've been giving some thought recently to making
a simple H2 and O2 generator for the new tube
furnace(s) I've built. Simple designs anyone???
All gas generators I have fabricated before produce
mixed gas, and not seperate. 

K.

-----Original Message-----
From: newcandle-bounces at ipdiscover.com
[mailto:newcandle-bounces at ipdiscover.com]On Behalf Of Nick Reiter
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:14 PM
To: New energy for the new world.
Subject: Re: [NewCandle] Microwave'd ham


Hoowwwdeee...

Some fun and games here, I see! And ham?  Glorious
ham!  Gots electrolytes, gots a microwave.  Did this
get started on Wortex?

So undissolved salt produces some strong buzzing,
crackling, bubbling?

Could it be that when you have a lump or grain or pile
of grains of in-the-process-of-dissolving salt, you
are creating a novel spherical or semispherical zone
of higher conductivity that is also graded?  Wouldn't
a grain of salt suspended in water generate a "cloud"
of ions around it that would disperse over time, but
be very concentrated close to the grain surface..

Of course none of this means anything until I go try
it out...

Good to see some hubbub again here.  I almost jumped
in on the Joe Cell thread, but it's a little too fresh
for me, having been working with series plate
electrolyzers here at my workplace in the near past. 
I'd come off like a bitter curmudgeon and Browns Gas
basher.

bubbazap

NR


--- Keith Nagel <NewCandleAdmin at ipdiscover.com> wrote:

> That's a good hypothesis Ham, made me curious enough
> to try the same experiment with SiO2 rather than
> NaCl. No buzzing at all. Is there something about
> sand that would preclude nucleation of bubbles?
> 
> I think my first hypothesis still holds, but
> I can confirm that when the water level gets
> low and there are salt crystals things really
> start buzzing. I attributed this to
> concentration/volume
> effect but nucleation could be helping.
> 
> BTW, if your voltmeter is high enough impedence,
> try measuring the voltage drop across the other
> plates. That ought to confuse the hell out of you
> if you make the measurement right (grin).
> 
> K.
> 


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