[NewCandle] a bit more glow and such

[Keith Nagel]

Hey Nick,

It is the case that list traffic, like spawning salmon
and migrating birds, is a seasonal affair. Spring is
a particularly poor time, as the business cycle is
usually peaking. I've been tied up with IP-Discover
the past two weeks, and will be until early summer.
This is one of the weak points of focusing the
list on experimental work. I view this as a long
term project, so be patient until the next wave
comes in (grin).

Needless to say, I haven't done a D2O experiment yet,
although I have a very interesting idea about how
I might do one with minimal D2O usage. The last
thing I was doing was experimenting with high voltage
conditioning using boric acid, I was able to
exceed Horaces maximum voltage by several hundred
volts at least. I doubt there is an electrolyte
better than boric acid for high voltage work.

I have also seen "boiloffs" but in cells that use
minimal amounts of water so I wasn't surprised
by that. It's also a hazard of using constant
voltage sources, rather like controlling an
glow discharge with a voltage source and having it break
to an arc.

K.

-----Original Message-----
From: newcandle-bounces at ipdiscover.com
[mailto:newcandle-bounces at ipdiscover.com]On Behalf Of Nick Reiter
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 11:10 AM
To: New energy for the new world.
Subject: [NewCandle] a bit more glow and such


Hello all,

Jeez, its been real quiet for about 2 weeks or so
here.  Maybe more.  This is a test, I guess, to see if
New Candle is still lit...

Granted, I have been very tied up with things at the
lab and in life at home.  So my update here on glow
work is minimalist.

Let's see... Sam Faile has been working with blends of
D2O and boric acid, added to his prestone antifreeze
solution.  He's now added 1/2 wave rectified 120V to
mains AC for powering his dual strip and curved strip
vessels.  Sam claims a small amount of boric acid
(<.001M or so) appears to act as a glow stabilizer in
D2O - prestone mix.

I'm sort of winding down on it myself, pending anyone
else's experiments and results for inspiration. 
Keith, did you ever try any D2O runs?

I had one interesting "event" occur about a week ago. 
I had filled my small beaker reactor (stainless wire
coil cathode - 1/4 high purity Al rod anode) with the
3:1 H2O-D2O citric acid solution, and was going to try
to re-condition the newly cleaned anode rod.  My plan
was to tweak the current up little by little over a
day's time, and see if conditioning in a D2O
environment gave any different results than
conditioning in H2O solution, then switching over to a
deuterated solution as I had done before.

After about a ten minute steep-rate current slide, I
walked away from the beaker, filled with 80 ml of
solution after setting my DC supply for a wee current
of maybe 2 to 3 mA (VDC was about 200) to trickle for
the rest of the day.  When I would do this in the
past, at least with light water solutions, the heat
evolved even after several hours was minimal - maybe a
stable 10 to 20C rise.

I walked away at 10:30 AM and got very busy in the
plant.  I came back about 14:30, thinking I would kill
the lights, turn up the current to maybe 50mA, and see
how the glow looked.  To my surprise, the beaker was
boiled nearly dry!  Maybe 5-10 ml of gooey, barely
hydrated citric acid remained in the bottom.  There
were spots of burnt caramel looking brown deposit on
the anode, though the cathode was clean.  The rate of
heating and boiling must not have been too excessive,
as I could find no evidence of explosive spew or
spatter anywhere nearby.  Wish I could have been
there!

Apart from that, I was able to tickle some grey white
glow from aluminum rods in a 5M solution of sucrose
sugar in H2O.  That was sort of neat.

Not sure how much further I care to take this, though.
 I believe that comparisons of light and blended heavy
water citric runs showed greater luminosity when I
used the blended.  But maybe like SL done in heavy
water - there's an enhancement of luminous output,
I've heard, and some neutrons... but how to engineer
it?

Anyone want to toss out any last requests or crazy
ideas, before I go jumping back into some weight
transient gravity experiments?

Best regards,

NR

--- Keith Nagel <NewCandleAdmin at ipdiscover.com> wrote:

> Hi Nick,
> 
> Thanks for the update!
> 
> I know what you and Sam mean about constant power;
> when
> I began to experiment with the boric acid I found I
> could see increases in brightness at the same
> current
> 


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