[NewCandle] New evidence of giant gravitomagnetism

[Keith Nagel]

Hey Jones,

I think your intuition here is quite good. There are
a few factors in Eugenes experiments that are poorly understood.
A wobble would be essential to seeing an effect in
an experiment where the disc was rotating at a constant
angular velocity and you are working with the linearized
GR theory. There needs to be some angular
accelleration, without it you don't get the induced
gravitational field, you just get a static gravitomagnetic
field. The next higher order rate of change ( angular
jerks ) would produce an induced time varying gravitomagnetic
field, not sensible to a gravitometer so not useful to
us at the moment. Angular jounce would produce another
time varying gravitic field, so that could be sensible
to our currect detector technology, but perhaps swamped
out by the concurrent gravitic field from the angular
accelleration... If all that is a bit confusing, just
think of it in the equivalent terms of electric and
magnetic fields in an inductor and all will become clear.

The second poorly understood factor in Eugenes experiments
is the unique structure of the superconductor. It's a double
structure, a bilayer of S and D wave superconductive material
that he achieves by ( if I remember correctly ) controlled 
oxidation of the top layer of the disc. Without it, you'll
get no sensible effect from the HTSC. This is important when you consider
the alternative quantum mechanical theory, best explained
by Fontana in his seminal paper here->

http://xxx.lanl.gov/html/cond-mat/9812070

There is a third theory, that of Modanese, which
considers shielding and is the one most connected
to Eugenes work. I frankly find the theory difficult
to follow and excessively abstract. It's the most
"far out" of the theories because it postulates
some new physics. I'll leave that one to the
string theorists, as an experimentalist I find
the linearized GR and the quantum theories plenty
enough for me. 

K.



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Subject: Re: [NewCandle] New evidence of giant gravitomagnetism


Nick

If some kind of erratic motion i.e. "jerk" is necessary to get an 
AG effect, then it is possible that in the later experiment, you 
may have unknowingly achieved this  by giving the disk a 
*magnetostriction* effect - casued by the inductive field from the 
windings. This might have been un-noticeable to you as it is 
usually in the ultrasonic range. However, one would expect some 
audible harmonics if there was such an effect.

Jones



> The only interesting result from that whole era came a
> couple of months later, when I had taken the YBCO
> ring, and had wrapped a set of toroidal windings
> around it.  One afternoon, I found a combination of
> currents, chilling, and impressed constant field from
> a ring magnet that actually appeared to cause a
> deviation (loss) in the test mass weight by about .3
> milligrams.  I was elated.  I repeated the effect
> again, and yet again the next afternoon.  However it
> then proceeded to go away.  The following day -
> nothing.  I spent the next three months of lunch hours
> and Saturdays trying to retrace my steps.  Nada.  It
> was heartbreaking.  Many months later, I came to
> suspect that an internal crack may have developed,
> disrupting some current or other.  The ring eventually
> broke into a number of pieces.
>
> I can't say it isn't something that wouldn't be fun to
> go back to with a fresh ring... but that little 4"
> number cost over $1000 back in the day.  And my old
> benefactor, Dr. McMaster is no longer around...  So
> its beyond my reach anymore, cost wise - plus the
> Ainsworth balance died a couple years back, with no
> repair parts possible.
>
> But hey... these days I am thinking about vacuum
> propellers.
>
> NR
>
> --- Jones Beene <jonesb9 at pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>> Nick,
>>
>> >  A few years back, I was funded to attempt some
>> scaled down
>> > replications of E.P.s set up, using a 4 inch
>> diameter ring.
>> > Results
>> were quite negative.
>>
>> What about the E.P. "wobble" ? did you know about it
>> then? did you
>> try to incorporate it?
>>
>> Jones
>>
>>
>>
>>
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