[NewCandle] Aluminum electrolysis bubbles after death

[Jones Beene]

Speaking of peroxides ...

Here is another suggestion, Beetle-juice notwithstanding.

Manganese oxide is a superb catalyst for accelerating the 
super-oxidation of water.
H2O + O3  --> 2H2O2

Counter-intuitively this might also be involved somehow in "bubbles 
after death" even if it had been unintended - in that peroxide, one 
formed, needs no energy input to reform into either water and oxygen - 
or, if conditions are right (cold): slowly into free hydrogen, oxygen 
and some water.

Manganese is a common mineral in well-water. Getting ozone into water 
initially is easy so long as the water is fully aerated. Magnetized 
water holds eight times more oxygen then unmagnetized water.

Therefore you might try to run you same experiment with magnetized water 
which can be easily aerated by shaking - James Bond style (not 
stirring). My bet is that you will get much more robust "bubbles after 
death."

Jones



Keith Nagel wrote:
> Hey Nick,
>
> I've finally release the 2007 version of IPD, so perhaps
> I can carve a bit of time out now and discuss a little
> of what midnight work I have been doing.
>
> But first, clever thought to add magnesium oxide
> supplement, you know our water is so badly contaminated
> with chlorine I wouldn't dream of using it in any
> kind of chemistry work. A bitches brew of stuff,
> I don't even drink it now. Used to be the best city
> water in America, but then again I used to be able
> to buy electronics components from Radio Shack
> so maybe I'm officially a cranky old man now
> at the tender age of 39.
>
> But I digress; US5089107 looks kind of interesting and
> certainly workable. I would be a bit surprised if
> you got more H2 out of this than expected though.
> One is still just burning up the metal to make it.
> OTOH, this has been claimed by others, and I have been privvy
> to private work involving Al and LENR. Much like
> my city water, you'd have quite a handful to work with
> measuring heat, gas, and electricity as all are outputs. 
>
> Come to think of it, the earlier claims I was thinking
> of were with sodium amalgams. Pretty sketchy
> stuff from years back...
>
> K.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: newcandle-bounces at ipdiscover.com
> [mailto:newcandle-bounces at ipdiscover.com]On Behalf Of Nick Reiter
> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 4:07 PM
> To: New energy for the new world.
> Subject: [NewCandle] Aluminum electrolysis bubbles after death
>
>
> Hello all, and belated happy Gnu Years...
>
> You might recall that maybe 6 weeks ago, I had posted
> some descriptions of an effect Sam Faile and I had
> both seen with "bubbling after death" in an all
> aluminum foil electrolysis cell in which distilled
> water was run with a slight amount of spring water
> mineral precipitate added.  At the time, Keith
> suggested it may have been the magnesium in the spring
> water precipitate that was plating out and reacting to
> produce the on-going bubbling at the electrodes after
> power was removed.
>
> This now seems to be confirmed as such.  The spring
> water precipitate (regardless of how it invoked shades
> of Hudson's white powders!) was primarily a red
> herring.  Sam has gotten some extremely vigorous
> after-death bubbling for up to 48 hours by adding a
> simple tablet of drugstore magnesium oxide supplement
> to the distilled water of the reactor bath.  Same
> darkening and embrittling of the foil electrodes, etc.
>
> Now this in turn caused Sam to look again at USP#
> 5089107 by Pacheco.  That was an interesting Mg-Al
> sacrificial electrolyzer rumored to produce unusually
> large amounts of H2.  It also dredges up notions about
> what might really activate the water in Joe Cells
> too...
>
> But for now, simply a long delayed update on a
> peculiar observation...
>
> Best,
>
> Nick Reiter
>
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