[NewCandle] Physical Methods Of Water

Jones Beene jonesb9 at pacbell.net
Sun Jan 14 00:16:41 EST 2007


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From: Keith Nagel 

Here's Jones copy of "Physical Methods of Water"

http://www.kpnconsulting.com/newcandle/download/PhysicalMethodsOfWater.pdf

They say the need for flowing water with the static magnetic field is essential,
and so the Lorentz force on the ionized constituents would come into play.



We have used three techniques with some success for making HOOH "on-the-fly": a magnetic stirrer with no stir bar; a static (loudspeaker) magnet with flow caused by compressed air or O2 through a needle valve; and both.

...either of which raises the curious situation of "electrolysis without electrodes" (per se) with the effective current being "induced" into the water ...



... well actually not the 'water' as it is dielectric but when you have a
catalyst which is conductive, and even the transition metal oxides, when present
as a colloid, can be quite conductive - then you have a synergistic
situation... as you can induce a current at a minimum voltage on the surface
area of your (virtual) electrodes. Colloidal particles
can have an equivalent surface area of acres (no exaggeration) instead of cm^2  <g>

This works for peroxide, where only a fractional volt is needed, but probably will not work for generating hydrogen, as you would need probably 4-5 times more potential (guess). In fact, we never see any evidence of even trace hydrogen this way, but even if you used stronger magnets and higher flow rates, I don't think you could get much (it would probably recombine first).

But I'm giving away too many secrets...








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