[NewCandle] Constrained hydrolysis
jonesb9 at pacbell.net
Tue Mar 6 16:36:10 EST 2007
Maybe there are some lower input possibilities, as well...
Here is something else related to the prior ideas which I have never
really investigated as fully as needs to be done, but it is on my to-do
list (along with 42 other half-baked ideas, and a few which are getting
extra crispy). Since we are at the level of "pie-in-the-sky" anyway,
here is the thought.
Lets say you have a micro-turbine or Stirling which is going to be
powered by H2 from a pressurized tank. Maybe this scenario is for 5
years down the road, and is to be used to keep batteries topped-off in a
car on long trips. Can you get some "free-energy" before the H2 is even
Hydrogen has a known IP which is surprisingly high, for the H2+ ion that
is, but it is clear from any number of experiments that getting a jet of
H2 to "carry" electrons is not only easy - it is almost free.
By "carrying electrons" I do not necessarily mean becoming ionized
negatively (H2-) as that is not required (and that puts it into the
category of known reactions which are not OU)... this is more a mass
transport issue, but using the well-know phenomenon of needle cathode
emission, yet augmented with a hydrogen jet. I would bet a dollar to a
donut hole that the energy which can be removed and recovered from a
needle is not only surprising, but a possible anomaly.
For instance, lets say you have a small high current, very low voltage
P.S. : maybe 10 amp 1+ v. AC, say 10 watts RMS. This is attached to a
needle which is an H2 jet (possibly magnetized as well) which feeds the
micro-turbine eventually ... but first we want to use the electrolyzed
free flux of H2.
By passing that jet though the (low potential) charged needle and then
through an induction coil, before it comes into contact with air, it
would be very interesting to see if you can get more than the 10 watts
out - since the electrons become "ballistic" due to the jet, and
ballistic electrons, which I realize is an undefined term-of-art are
typically 60 volt potential, or greater, in cold cathode discharges.
I bet it would be far more than the 10 watts input, and even if it is
far less than 600 watts possible <g> there would be the fringe benefit
of possibly hotter combustion, as there will be some H2 ionization on
the Boltzmann's tail of the spectrum and lots of charge added. If only
one gram/minute of H2 were coming out, then 10 amps means that only one
molecule in many thousands is being used as a carrier, and we are not
talking about true ionization here.
Of course, that is not technically OU as the H2 jet has kinetic energy,
without which the mass transport is impossible. There is a middle ground
of efficient cathode reactions, to add to that - which is not
well-studied in the literature.
There are all kinds of possibilities for efficiency improvements in
combustion - which are not being done now - because for one thing, they
look so much like LoT violators on paper that few 'credentialed'
experimenters would try them.
Just one more item on my to-do list.
BTW the Mega-Lotto jackpot is getting pretty large for tonight, and
could be put to good use - if this ticket I am holding ...<g> ... hey,
jackpot to crackpot ... that has a nice ring, doesn't it>
Keith Nagel wrote:
> Jone writes:
>> The bottom line is that it was basically just a wild idea, tossed out
>> like a moving target for you enjoyment in shooting down... <g>
> Well it's a stimulus to thought. One of the problems Robert
> had was making a small torch. The unit he was working with
> was 40KW, and they were trying to get it down to 10KW.
> I'm intrigued by the notion of a "micro" atomic hydrogen
> torch, something on the scale of your hypodermic needle.
> That would make a great tool for experimentation.
> What I'm sort of imagining is a spark gap rather than
> an arc gap, with a charge line driving it. Now you
> could get powerful discharge currents with a realistic power supply.
> The output would be pulsed, with the rep rate determined
> by the relaxation time of the gap and the charging current.
> However, now the magnet would be used for splitting,
> rather than spin polarizing, getting away from your idea.
> Laptop atomic H. How about it?
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