[NewCandle] Dead batt. OU?

[Keith Nagel]

Hi Jones,

I've never worked with this kind of lead acid battery circuit before, but
if I had noticed such an effect I would first attribute
it to the backpulse breaking down a sulfate film and
allowing previously stored charge a chance to be
recovered from the battery. This would explain your
observations of a "dead" battery coming back to
life, then dying as it becomes "recharged".

Actually, this phenomena in general is called soakage,
and you can experiment with it more readily with
electrolytic capacitors. That is to say, you can
charge a cap under certain conditions and the charge
will disappear. Then, after having discharged the
cap with a short, you can watch the charge slowly
build back up over the course of days.

These are important phenomena, and certainly relate
to new energy, but I don't know that Tom or Bob
are adding much to the dicussion (grin). I can't
see the video you posted, how about a quick description?

K.


-----Original Message-----
From: newcandle-bounces at ipdiscover.com
[mailto:newcandle-bounces at ipdiscover.com]On Behalf Of Jones Beene
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 11:01 AM
To: Terry Blanton; New energy for the new world.
Subject: [NewCandle] Dead batt. OU?


Terry,

Am sending this to K and the candle-gang for comment.

It is a crude setup, but tends to reinforce what is happening elsewhere 
for the past twenty years Newman/Bedini/ etc.

A dead battery is recharged and in the process the motor will self-spin.

What I am pondering is WHY only a nearly dead battery works and gets 
recharged, but once it is recharged the thing thing tends to stop.

This has been seen in too many devices now to be coincidental.

http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=-223879493347270061


There is the issue of so-called "battery popping" or battery-zapping, 
and there are even commercial battery zappers being sold for reviving 
shot batts (do born-again batts spark "in tongues" ;-)

http://www.greaterthings.com/News/Tilley/how/bob_colvin_bearden.htm

Here is the bazarro explanatation from Colvin. Any comments?

"There is a certain effect which happens in a battery sometimes for a 
large overunity battery popper unit like that, if the device is "for 
real."  Time-reversal operations and wave transductions can occur, 
resulting in time-excitation charging inside the battery materials, in a 
negative time charge sense (remember, the overunity operation is a 
negentropic operation).  After a machine of that type and with that 
particular internal effects has been used to furnish energy for quite a 
while, you can make a definitive test on it.  Simply hook it to a normal 
battery charger for that size battery, and start to charge it.  You then 
may find to your surprise that the power will just seem to "disappear" 
in that battery.

The reason is that wave transduction occurs of your charging spatial 
energy into time-energy, and so you have to furnish rather enormous 
energy to get a little bit of that negative-time charge reversed.  After 
you fill that seemingly "bottomless pit", then suddenly the negative 
time-charge will have been eliminated, and at that point the battery 
will start to charge up in quite normal fashion."

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