[NewCandle] Rolled Al hydrolysis

[Keith Nagel]

OK, I've done something just now.

I started with a 25 ft roll of White Rose brand Al foil.
Donning a pair of rubber gloves, I removed the cardboard
roll and cut the roll in half with a pair of shears.
I saved one half, and dropped the other in an HDPE
container, after cleaning with acetone and distilled water.
I filled the container and sealed it.

We'll see what develops over the next few days.

I expect the Al to corrode, Al ions displacing H from the
water and leaving an excess of OH. That OH will end up
on the body of the Al, in the form of mixed hydroxides/oxides.

I think the foliated structure enhances this for perhaps the same
reasons that corrosion occurs more rapidly at a crack in the
paint than a plain metal surface equally exposed to the elements. 

While browsing the "roll" section of the local grocery, I
came across parchment paper and wax paper. Either ought
to be good enough to use as a dielectric as you suggested.
I'm not such a snob as you think, Jones (grin). They say
that anyone can make a bridge, but it takes an engineer
to make one that _just barely_ stands up. 

I have heard strange stories about corrosion of Al, from miners
who use it to displace precious metals from heap leachings.
Perhaps these experiments can help shed some light?

K.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:newcandle-bounces at ipdiscover.com]On Behalf Of Nick Reiter
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:28 PM
To: New energy for the new world.
Subject: [NewCandle] Rolled Al hydrolysis


Ahoy, Keith,

Was curious if you had tried the roll-o-foil in the
distilled water cylinder yet?

I started another one going.  After about a 48 hour
catalyzing period or dwell time, I start to get
hydrolysis, and at about T+70 hours, I was cruising at
around 10 to 15 ml/m of (apparently) H2.

The real test is coming together in the form of a tidy
little experiment.  Four vessels, with distilled H2O
in two and an alkaline "amalgam" forming solute (like
dilute KOH or NaOH) in two.  100 square feet of Al
foil added to each one, except in one case each for
distilled H2O and alkaline solution we have loose
crinkled strips or shreds, the other two are tightly
stacked or rolled layers, to produce some regions
where presumably a Casimir type cavity would prevail. 
Which hydrolizes faster and more effectively?

I'm still trying to wrap my head around what the
predicted influence would be on a chemical reaction
occuring in a vacuum mode constrained space....

NR


 
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