[NewCandle] Guess the gas

[Nick Reiter]

Keith and Jones,

Thanks for the thoughts and Monox link.  I'll keep
digging, but I'm still feeling it was probably
hydrogen.  There is something of a Joe-ish (or dare I
say CF) character to these generating vessels - I've
had a saltwater version of my own sitting on the
kitchen table for 2 weeks, with nary a bubble.  Even
warming it slightly with a space heater to maybe
around 35C didn't kick in anything.  Sam has had a
couple of dead ones too, but overall, things seem to
take off a lot faster with a greater frequency for him
than for me.

nnn


--- Keith Nagel <NewCandleAdmin at ipdiscover.com> wrote:

> Hey Nick,
> 
> That's really interesting. Did you try heating a
> cell
> to see if a runaway reaction could be induced?
> 
> As regards the Maple-Chase unit, it uses a Monox
> type
> detector, more about which can be learned here.
> 
> http://www.monox.com/sensor_faqs.htm
> 
> A call to the company might produce some more info
> about what can be detected.
> 
> The Kevran work had to do with welders being
> overcome
> when playing a torch across ironwork. His claim was
> that the generation of CO was due to the fusing of
> two atoms of N. You can read more about it in
> Kevrans
> book.
> 
> As far as Jones suggestion of Orgone, was Sam
> sporting
> some wood when the thing blew (grin). That's the
> only
> orgone detector I have heard of...
> 
> K.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: newcandle-bounces at ipdiscover.com
> [mailto:newcandle-bounces at ipdiscover.com]On Behalf
> Of Nick Reiter
> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 4:53 PM
> To: New energy for the new world.
> Subject: [NewCandle] Guess the gas
> 
> 
> Hello, all,
> 
> While I've shifted my focus somewhat over the past
> few
> weeks to the topic of the Woodward drive(s), Sam
> Faile
> has continued to look at hydrolysis of tight roll
> aluminum foil in water.  Last week, he had another
> "eruption" where for some reason yet unknown, the
> rate
> of gas production went sky high, and enough heat was
> generated to melt the plastic reactor vessel. 
> However, this time, when the event occured,
> something
> gaseous was generated in a large enough volume that
> it
> set off Sam's apartment CO detector after maybe 10
> minutes.
> 
> My hunch is that it was hydrogen wafting up to the
> detector.  Sam wonders if he might have actually
> generated CO via some transmutative process.  He
> claims Kervran (bio-transmutation) had documented
> anomalous production of CO from welding equipment,
> which had afflicted welders with symptoms otherwise
> inexplicable.  Sam says he had been feeling nauseous
> and achy for some time, while experimenting with the
> gas generators.  He has not smelled any Cl or HCl
> from
> the salt water runs.
> 
> What it comes down to is whether or not CO detectors
> (his is a Maple-Chase brand unit, less than 3 or 4
> years old.) react to gases other than CO.  I found
> some vague on-line references that say they do,
> giving
> false positives for CO2 on occasion.  My hunch is
> that
> the diffusion cell type detector probably would
> respond to hydrogen (as a reducing gas).  Anybody
> out
> there know the particulars of CO detection?
> 
> step right up and guess der gas!
> 
> N
> 
> 
>  
>
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