[NewCandle] Guess the gas

[Keith Nagel]

If you think it's detecting H2, then why not
put a Al/NaOH cell right under the detector
and find out? If it is detecting H2, then you'd
better warn Sam about that! That means H2 is
pooling on the ceiling in sufficent quantities
to cause an explosion. 

As you say, it is kind of strange, this "taking off"
of the corrosion cell. Perhaps I'll try heating
a cell myself today.

K.


-----Original Message-----
From: newcandle-bounces at ipdiscover.com
[mailto:newcandle-bounces at ipdiscover.com]On Behalf Of Nick Reiter
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 6:16 PM
To: New energy for the new world.
Subject: Re: [NewCandle] Guess the gas


Keith and Jones,

Thanks for the thoughts and Monox link.  I'll keep
digging, but I'm still feeling it was probably
hydrogen.  There is something of a Joe-ish (or dare I
say CF) character to these generating vessels - I've
had a saltwater version of my own sitting on the
kitchen table for 2 weeks, with nary a bubble.  Even
warming it slightly with a space heater to maybe
around 35C didn't kick in anything.  Sam has had a
couple of dead ones too, but overall, things seem to
take off a lot faster with a greater frequency for him
than for me.

nnn


--- Keith Nagel <NewCandleAdmin at ipdiscover.com> wrote:

> Hey Nick,
> 
> That's really interesting. Did you try heating a
> cell
> to see if a runaway reaction could be induced?
> 
> As regards the Maple-Chase unit, it uses a Monox
> type
> detector, more about which can be learned here.
> 
> http://www.monox.com/sensor_faqs.htm
> 
> A call to the company might produce some more info
> about what can be detected.
> 
> The Kevran work had to do with welders being
> overcome
> when playing a torch across ironwork. His claim was
> that the generation of CO was due to the fusing of
> two atoms of N. You can read more about it in
> Kevrans
> book.
> 
> As far as Jones suggestion of Orgone, was Sam
> sporting
> some wood when the thing blew (grin). That's the
> only
> orgone detector I have heard of...
> 
> K.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: newcandle-bounces at ipdiscover.com
> [mailto:newcandle-bounces at ipdiscover.com]On Behalf
> Of Nick Reiter
> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 4:53 PM
> To: New energy for the new world.
> Subject: [NewCandle] Guess the gas
> 
> 
> Hello, all,
> 
> While I've shifted my focus somewhat over the past
> few
> weeks to the topic of the Woodward drive(s), Sam
> Faile
> has continued to look at hydrolysis of tight roll
> aluminum foil in water.  Last week, he had another
> "eruption" where for some reason yet unknown, the
> rate
> of gas production went sky high, and enough heat was
> generated to melt the plastic reactor vessel. 
> However, this time, when the event occured,
> something
> gaseous was generated in a large enough volume that
> it
> set off Sam's apartment CO detector after maybe 10
> minutes.
> 
> My hunch is that it was hydrogen wafting up to the
> detector.  Sam wonders if he might have actually
> generated CO via some transmutative process.  He
> claims Kervran (bio-transmutation) had documented
> anomalous production of CO from welding equipment,
> which had afflicted welders with symptoms otherwise
> inexplicable.  Sam says he had been feeling nauseous
> and achy for some time, while experimenting with the
> gas generators.  He has not smelled any Cl or HCl
> from
> the salt water runs.
> 
> What it comes down to is whether or not CO detectors
> (his is a Maple-Chase brand unit, less than 3 or 4
> years old.) react to gases other than CO.  I found
> some vague on-line references that say they do,
> giving
> false positives for CO2 on occasion.  My hunch is
> that
> the diffusion cell type detector probably would
> respond to hydrogen (as a reducing gas).  Anybody
> out
> there know the particulars of CO detection?
> 
> step right up and guess der gas!
> 
> N
> 
> 
>  
>
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