[NewCandle] Structured running water?

[Keith Nagel]

Hey Jones,

If I understand him, he says he is comparing water fresh from
the tap with water after about 10 minutes of running it. The
difference I assert is conductivity. Water fresh from the
tap has been sitting in the house pipes for a while, as
opposed to water from the mains. The problem here is that
if you or I do the experiment, it's quite likely we'd
get wildly varying results. My city water is (a) disgusting
and (b) pretty different from yours, I am sure. There
are insufficent controls to make a determination about
what is shown.

It relates to the circuit inasmuch as with a constant
voltage, a more conductive water will produce more gas.

All that said, to prove his idea, one would want
to start with both samples of water identical ( like 1/2
of a bottle of distilled or spring water ). Then cause
one water to flow though plastic pipe, and test. KnowwhatImean?
If you got positive results with that, then you could
reasonably claim that the mechanical flow had some effect on the
water. 

K.


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:newcandle-bounces at ipdiscover.com]On Behalf Of Jones Beene
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 12:06 PM
To: New energy for the new world.
Subject: Re: [NewCandle] Structured running water?


K,

You missed the main point of this one, I think. He does make/sell units 
which use electrolyte - so getting lots of gas was not the issue here.

Near the start, he gets some gas with ~10 amps but then at the end a lot 
more with less current. The only difference - apparently - the running 
water. I don't see this as related to the circuit as much as to the 
structure of the water.

Jones



Keith Nagel wrote:
> Hi Jones,
> 
> I didn't see any information about the circuit, but I sort
> of gathered from his talk that he was using those big car
> batteries? If so, with a constant voltage system, what is
> being measured here is the conductivity of the water. A more
> conductive water produces more gas for a given voltage,
> at greater efficiency. This from ohms law, and faradays
> law. From the photo's, it looks like the plates are in parallel?
> If so, then 10 volts overpotential is pretty bad, like
> <10% efficient. Maybe you can fedex him some Red Devil?
> 
> With a constant current system, you'd look at voltage to
> measure efficiency. And gas output would be the same in
> all cases, unless other reactions are taking place ( "junk"
> as he puts it, mainly corroded iron from the clorine ).
> 
> I hope he has better luck gas sealing plexi than I did (grin).
> 
> K.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: newcandle-bounces at ipdiscover.com
> [mailto:newcandle-bounces at ipdiscover.com]On Behalf Of Jones Beene
> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 10:07 AM
> To: New energy for the new world.
> Subject: [NewCandle] Structured running water?
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVL8Q7Hqt6Y&mode=related&search=
> 
> This guy John Aarons has a number of interesting tests and vids. It is 
> "small science" but it could be meaningful.
> 
> This one seems to indicate that tap water will produce much more gas, if 
> it has been allowed to "run" for 30 seconds or so, prior to use... 
> compared to normal tap water out of the faucet.
> 
> Does this "runnning" somehow structure the molecules in a linear way, so 
> that they dissociate faster ? Doesn't really make much sense.
> 
> Jones
> 
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