[NewCandle] More FYI

Jones Beene jonesb9 at pacbell.net
Sun Nov 4 10:58:06 EST 2007


Keith

> In my experiment with the diodes, I used a secondary with
> a great deal of interturn capacity, swamping out everything
> else. 

In the specs on DrS's site, he is careful to say only nine turns on the 
secondary, and usually there is a 3-1 ratio although it looks like he 
has tried others. No doubt this is for resonance in that particular circuit.

The problem is that there are now many circuits and many partial 
replications, so it is difficult to pick and choose facts. Grounding the 
loose (open) end  of either primary or secondary *ruins the effect* in 
all circuits I have seen, indicating that the wires are actively "doing 
something" but apparently not emitting RF at the circuit frequency.

If the primary and secondary are linked by stray capacitance then OK 
what does that tell you other than it provides one big volumetric 
spatial antenna, to use or tap for whatever external energy you can get 
out of it.

It is possible to get an indication of voltage on the secondary but not 
being able to insert a ground makes measurements there tricky. With the 
20 LEDs, it looks from an old page, that he is seeing something like 100 
volts on the open secondary. I wish I had downloaded all the previous 
pages as some material comes and goes. At a 3-1 ratio, that would mean 
that 30 volts equivalent is on the primary but in that case his signal 
was only one volt (50 milliamps). Some of the replicators are using 
signals with higher voltage and less current.

IF there is truly a voltage drop between each of 20 LEDs of about 3 
volts then the 100 volts is not out of the ballpark - but what about 
when he has driven 150? bizzare. That would indicate that the initial 
current has dropped into the microamp range, yet the LEDs are fully bright.

If nothing else, this is why I have been saying that there could be a 
negative resistance range through each diode -- and in operation, as 
each drops in voltage, the NR "wants" to increase in current but the 
microamps available in that loop make that impossible and therefore, it 
act as BB's "energy sucking antenna".

However ... what source of energy is being sucked?

I can definitely say that as a RF engineer with 40 years experience he 
has the equipment and the knowledge to measure this and he does not see 
a source for the external input in local broadcast.


> This is a little more like a series resonant circuit.
> Hence his observation of a mode switch from 1/2 wave to 1/4
> wave when he grounds one end. I suggested this mode switching
> phenomena to George last week, and I'm delighted that Mark
> is demonstrating that in his circuit. 

There are some competent people working on this now. Everyone agrees 
that there seems to be a resonant rise of voltage, far more than a 
doubling (100 fold increase, minimum) ala the Tesla coil, but also there 
seems to be "extra" current coming into the "plug".

 From where?

Jones




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