[NewCandle] SEC

[Jones Beene]

Keith

> Now Jones, I'm sure if you measured the Z and Q of the secondary,
> you'd find the ordinary laws of RF are being obeyed (grin). 

Not true AFAIK but I am no RF engineer.

Keith, I think that your admittedly superior level of training could be 
an actual impediment here, since this circuit is an anomaly and does not 
obey the normal expectations (said with all due respect of course ;-)

You have to tinker with this yourself to appreciate the all important 
fact that everyone seems to be glossing over -- that most of the power 
seems to NOT be coming from the battery, but is being reflected back 
from the LED chain, apparently.

IOW the LED is an active energy coherer, IMHO.

Attached is an alternate way to wire the LEDs which should tell you 
exactly why I believe this to be true. It just came out yesterday but so 
far, it seems robust.

The reason why I think you cannot doubt this now, is that in this 
alternate configuration, it is easy to add more links sequentially 
without risking bulb burnout: and in so doing, adding more links in the 
chain actually lowers the P-in, while increasing the light output. It is 
a dramatic demo, I am told.

No, it is still not self-powering (but the "impossible" takes a little 
longer, as they say).

Instead of making a simple in series chain of all same polarity facing 
LEDs, this new wrinkle is a now a series of paired mini "AV" plugs, each 
of which is made from 2 of the LEDs themselves. 2 LEDs in opposite 
direction make a "mini-AV-plug" - simple but effective.

Now start to hook up as many of these AV LED plug pairs in series as you 
can. The builder who came up with this idea, named "Hoptoad" had 50 Leds 
and got them all going, making up 25 "AV LEDS" in his chain - and the 
interesting thing to note is, each pair of LEDS adds to the total 
brightness of all the other LEDS as the plug chain grows, with each 
added "AV LED" pair.

I have also received confirmation from another builder that 20 pairs (40 
total LEDs) draw much less current from the battery than do 10 pairs. 
That to me is very meaningful.

The $64 question is: can a level be reached where the loop can be closed 
somehow, and without the LEDs burning out too fast? That has always been 
the problem. As the current input gets lower and lower, the voltage in 
the plug gets higher and the LEDs will burn out too quickly. The new 
wrinkle seems to mitigate that slightly.

But let me reiterate that already, two builders claim to have seen 
self-power for short periods.

That is anecdotal, and most of us have NOT gotten there yet, but after 
anyone builds and toys with the Led-chain for a while, I suspect that 
they will become a convert ;-).

BTW - we did have a null result (so far) with the weight-loss, using the 
NE-2 bulbs.

That is a bit disappointing but today, we will wire them up in a 
four-part string of mini-AV-plugs (the neons do not have a strong 
polarity, like the LEDs so we have been alternating them with diodes and 
it will take two neons and two diodes to make the alternative 
"mini-AV-plug") and then these can be added in series.

Jones
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