[NewCandle] Aluminum and Copper Disc Weight Effects

[Frederick Sparber]

I apologize for my impatience, Nick. I have a firsthand awareness of
age/medical problems.

I think the experiments so far even if meagure show that a Zero Net Charge
device
can experience a force from an external electric field and that low voltage
high charge rather
than high voltage low charge as seen in the Biefeld-Brown Effect and
Buehler, and other "Lifter" experiments are not necessary.

It boils down to high-thin surface-surface interface capacitance technology
(like ongoing MIM research) to get the most capacitance-charge possible
allowing either switchable battery-ultracapacitor, or contact potential
materials for the voltage on the metal electrodes.

Thanks for your help.

Best Regards.

Fred





On 9/2/07, Nick Reiter <avalonbiker at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Good morning, Fred and all,
>
> I apologize, Fred, for not being able to get into the
> meat of this.  Please know I had several technical
> projects on my plate already, and a variety of other
> non-technical ones scrambling for my attention.  And
> my "day job" work at the lab on top of all that!
>
> I feel I made a faithful attempt at trying to repeat
> your early experiments, then following your phone call
> and e-mails, I thought I had set up a decent little
> variable field rig to try some combinations out.  In
> addition to the Zr-Ni disc, I have also tried some
> batteries and an aluminum cylinder plated with Ni.
> None of these did anything I could see as far as
> pendulum type torque toward a particular electrode,
> except for whichever electrode they were slightly
> closer to.
>
> See, Fred, I haven't had time to even compile these
> results yet to share properly, but I have been playing
> with it.
>
> I have to confess that despite my best efforts, I have
> just not been able to soak in the theory that you have
> valiantly been trying to get across to us - mainly for
> lack of sheer minutes I can devote to studying your
> many e-mails and links, etc, I guess, not sure.  So I
> have tried to run with what I THINK you are trying to
> get at here, and have just so far not seen anything
> that I can't explain outside of the field effects and
> charge forces I have seen and fought for 20 years in
> experiments where I am looking for very delicate
> weight changes or motions in electrical fields.  I
> apologize sincerely if I am just missing your premise
> entirely.
>
> Please don't abandon Newcandle list because I am not
> providing the focus I might be able to under other
> circumstances.  I think everyone appreciates your
> ideas and input.  My chemotherapy will be done soon,
> so maybe my head will clear a little more from the
> muzzies after that.
>
> NR
>
> --- Frederick Sparber <fsparber at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > By The Way, Nick  the Charge Q is also a function of
> > the number
> > of upper Fermi Level (conduction electrons)
> > available from the
> > two materials.
> > IOW, ultra thin layers of material cannot provide
> > enough of themfor the
> > required charge .
> > If  I recall the electroless nickel coating was less
> > than 1/2 micron thick
> > which formed
> > sort of a "double dipole" with the zirconium, that
> > aligned the disc in the
> > 75,000 volt per meter Electric Field you provided.
> >
> > If you can't stay focused on this topic, i'm out of
> > here.
> >
> > Fred
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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