[NewCandle] Measuring Half-Cell Charge

[Frederick Sparber]

On 9/12/07, Keith Nagel <NewCandleAdmin at ipdiscover.com> wrote:
> Hey Fred,
>
> I don't see why not. Mix a little knox gelatin in there if you
> want a thicker layer that sticks around. But even a misting ought to be enough.
> That float ought to float a lot farther if it weren't filled
> with ballast water (grin).
>
One variable at a time Keith, water is what I started with as well as
mixing-exchange of ions-molecules at the surface because of low energy
auto-dissociation
of water into bound OH and H to at the metal surface (according to
Thiel and Madey).
> If it works at all, it does give one pause for thought. If you
> encapsulated a HV supply in a metal sphere within a sphere,
> would we see the same effect writ large? That would be amazing.
> We really could get off the ground with something like that.
>
You miss the point Keith, HV is not Charge, as the high voltage
"lifter" effort has proven.

Q = CV on HV plates is is 1.0 microcoulombs at a megavolt on a 1.0
microfarad capacitor. Increase that to a sphere-within-sphere or
tube-with-tube with vacuum insulation and you're out of luck. Add a
super dielectric between  and you're even worse off.

OTOH building a simple low voltage battery and/or supercap between the
spheres-tubes to get the charge to weight where you want it....
>
> The key test at this point ( I've discussed this with Fred but
> I don't know if I posted here ) is to double or triple the voltage
> and see if the deflection increases proportionately. I would
> suggest switching it synchronously with the period of the
> pendulum, which would really amplify the signal, but I'm
> afraid that electrodynamic effects may come into play and
> confuse the results.
>
Yes.

Fred
> K.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:newcandle-bounces at ipdiscover.com]On Behalf Of Frederick Sparber
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:09 PM
> To: New energy for the new world.
> Subject: [NewCandle] Measuring Half-Cell Charge
>
>
> Hi Nick, Keith
>
> Brass should be okay Nick, the work function is about 4.3 eVfor most
> brass compositions.
>
> Keith, I think a film over the suface isn't enough to do it, but it
> would be worth a try
> after a water-filled run.
>
> Fred
>
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