[NewCandle] Measuring Half-Cell Charge

[Keith Nagel]

Hey Fred,

I mentioned this idea to you the other night, but i'll
try it again here.

You can make a half cell out of active carbon and water.
Now you'll have a huge charge, as you deem necessary in
your speculations. 1000's of times bigger than just the
water on copper. Because it's a half cell, we don't
care about electrical connection to the carbon, so all
that would be required is a dielectric container filled with
the carbon and water slurry. 

Now your electrolyte is the external terminal and the
carbon is the internal terminal. In this case, the external
terminal would be positive rather than negative, so the
container should be attracted to the negative external
plate rather than the positve one.

Of course, all this ain't according to Hoyle, but we wouldn't
be very good experimentalists if we just quoted chapter
and verse, would we? (smile). 

I will be happy to do this experiment if you get positive
results on your next go around. But we should agree that,
at least for experimental purposes, the ideas are equivalent.
I don't have a copper float handy, but I do have the carbon, etc.
I may need a new laser, the cat wore the last one out. If they
aren't the same, it'll be instructive and helpful to developing
the idea to understand why.

K.

-----Original Message-----
From: newcandle-bounces at ipdiscover.com
[mailto:newcandle-bounces at ipdiscover.com]On Behalf Of Frederick Sparber
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 1:51 AM
To: New energy for the new world.
Subject: [NewCandle] Measuring Half-Cell Charge


Rick and Keith.

Oops, Q = CV = 1.0 Coulomb at 1.0 Microfarad at 1.0 Megavolts, but a
farad at a volt or so using the bi layer of a half-cell to see if a
zero net charge configuration is acted on by an external E field is
the intent of this effort. Building a battery and/or
supercap for spheres within spheres, or tubes within tubes requires a
more complicated experiment than water in a float.

Reiterating; the Caltech Electric Field Applet suggests that no matter how high
the field/potential in the bilayer, an external field can act on a
zero net charge
combination albeit with less force.

http://www.cco.caltech.edu/~phys1/java/phys1/EField/EField.html

For instance a point charge of 6 coulombs closely surrounded by six 1
coulomb point charges can be acted on by an external field. At least
according to the applet.

Fred

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