[NewCandle] Measuring Half-Cell Charge

Frederick Sparber fsparber at gmail.com
Thu Sep 13 13:14:42 EDT 2007


Interesting idea Keith.

A bottle of Aquadag in the electric field?

Fred

On 9/13/07, Keith Nagel <NewCandleAdmin at ipdiscover.com> wrote:
> Hey Fred,
>
> I mentioned this idea to you the other night, but i'll
> try it again here.
>
> You can make a half cell out of active carbon and water.
> Now you'll have a huge charge, as you deem necessary in
> your speculations. 1000's of times bigger than just the
> water on copper. Because it's a half cell, we don't
> care about electrical connection to the carbon, so all
> that would be required is a dielectric container filled with
> the carbon and water slurry.
>
> Now your electrolyte is the external terminal and the
> carbon is the internal terminal. In this case, the external
> terminal would be positive rather than negative, so the
> container should be attracted to the negative external
> plate rather than the positve one.
>
> Of course, all this ain't according to Hoyle, but we wouldn't
> be very good experimentalists if we just quoted chapter
> and verse, would we? (smile).
>
> I will be happy to do this experiment if you get positive
> results on your next go around. But we should agree that,
> at least for experimental purposes, the ideas are equivalent.
> I don't have a copper float handy, but I do have the carbon, etc.
> I may need a new laser, the cat wore the last one out. If they
> aren't the same, it'll be instructive and helpful to developing
> the idea to understand why.
>
> K.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: newcandle-bounces at ipdiscover.com
> [mailto:newcandle-bounces at ipdiscover.com]On Behalf Of Frederick Sparber
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 1:51 AM
> To: New energy for the new world.
> Subject: [NewCandle] Measuring Half-Cell Charge
>
>
> Rick and Keith.
>
> Oops, Q = CV = 1.0 Coulomb at 1.0 Microfarad at 1.0 Megavolts, but a
> farad at a volt or so using the bi layer of a half-cell to see if a
> zero net charge configuration is acted on by an external E field is
> the intent of this effort. Building a battery and/or
> supercap for spheres within spheres, or tubes within tubes requires a
> more complicated experiment than water in a float.
>
> Reiterating; the Caltech Electric Field Applet suggests that no matter how high
> the field/potential in the bilayer, an external field can act on a
> zero net charge
> combination albeit with less force.
>
> http://www.cco.caltech.edu/~phys1/java/phys1/EField/EField.html
>
> For instance a point charge of 6 coulombs closely surrounded by six 1
> coulomb point charges can be acted on by an external field. At least
> according to the applet.
>
> Fred
>
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