[NewCandle] Neutron repulsion energy

Keith Nagel NewCandleAdmin at ipdiscover.com
Thu Sep 20 16:43:14 EDT 2007


Hey Jones,

Not sure. He draws the reaction with a preceding <, what does
that mean? Is he saying that the neutron are repulsive, and so
when one is ejected from the sun there is a release of that
energy? Why don't you email the author and get the word straight
from the horses mouth? I'm sure we'd all like to know. He's
got a lot of his stuff in the journals, so presumably the refs
reading it weren't too outraged by the claims, even though they
seem pretty outrageous.

K.

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Subject: Re: [NewCandle] Neutron repulsion energy


Nothing against Rolla, Mo. (aka "little Korea") other than it's too 
close to where I did basic training (over forty years ago), but I'm not 
buying this nonsense. Or else demonstrating my own ignorance (more likely).

Yet in Mizzou they have a famous expression which should be invoked 
here: "show me"....

On the top of page five, the basic argument is stated:

Neutron emission from the solar core:

n > n   + ~ 10-22 MeV

I don't get it. Where is the loss of mass? He says, "neutron emission 
releases up to 1.1%-2.4% of the nuclear rest mass as energy."

OK the neutron gives up over one percent of its rest mass, presumably as 
a gamma, but it still has the same three quarks, which have a local QM 
quantum mass/energy, so are they saying quarks are not a quantum 
particles after all, or was the lost energy - as much as 22 MeV held as 
angular momentum? ...Nope - not if its rest mass, .... so where was this 
mass located before the emission ?

OK - to partially answer this, yes and superficially, there are many 
references in the literature which suggest a possible variations in 
quark mass in the cosmological context, but that is far different from 
variation within the same star!!

http://www.citebase.org/abstract?id=oai%3AarXiv.org%3Aastro-ph%2F0209409

Are these guys making a foolish error, or am I?

Jones




Keith Nagel wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> This popped up on Saviours list, and I thought it of sufficient
> interest to post here.
> 
> http://www.omatumr.com/Data/2000Data.htm
> http://www.omatumr.com/abstracts2003/jfe-neutronrep.pdf
> 
> The author claims the reaction can yield > 1% of the rest mass
> as energy. Wow. Haven't had time to give the paper more than
> a summary glance; but perhaps some of you do...
> 
> K.
> 
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