[NewCandle] Royal Rife Redux

Jones Beene jonesb9 at pacbell.net
Wed Feb 6 23:02:36 EST 2008


--- Nick, all,

> ... Thomas oscillator Stiffler driver circuit, now
running a whomping total of 240 LEDs off of four
parallel AV plugs.  

Excellent! What is your P-in for this?

BTW as an alternative to running 4 AV plugs in
parallel, here is something which has shown a bit of
success using two sets of plugs.

Two plugs, running on both sides of a small 1:1
isolation transformer (the small 4-pin version which
is made for breadboards) where each plug is opposite
from its open-end, will do very well when the input
(primary) is a few turns wrapped around the isolation
transformer. The whole isolation transformer becomes
the secondary, and with a big step up (I do not know
how many turns there are but it is very fine wire and
there are many).... 

It should be possible to run two of these hybrid guys
in parallel, as an alternative to having all 4 in
parallel.

Because there are two step-ups, however, you will need
more turns on your loopstick primary so that you don't
get too much voltage.

> how did things work out with your
> formal characterization of your circuits?  

I was not easy to get consistent measurements, but
from all indications, it did not seem to be close to
OU anywhere in the loop. 

However, after contemplating all the variables, that
is not that surprising (even if there were to be some
net OU when the light is added) and it is not
necessarily the final word, maybe.... some local
college kids are still playing around with this, but I
have moved to the sidelines, waiting for inspiration. 

The effect is visually amazing to everyone, and you
just get the gut feeling that there is an anomaly
somewhere.

Think about this - If there is strong photon output,
how could there be both that 'lost' output AND at the
same time, electrical OU appears in the loop,
independent of the light ? ... and if it is difficult
to measure the equivalent electrical energy of the
photon output, it is going to be hard to convince
anyone of a net gainfulness.

As a lighting device only - and forgetting about the
OU implication, I believe this is a very important
advance which could lower the US dependence on fossil
fuel. 

Think about this: If it were designed and engineered
on a single substrate, there is no reason that all of
your 240 LEDs, or even several thousand, could not be
fabricated onto a small disk - with all circuitry
included, just as in an integrated circuit. Add a
power supply and you have a 100 Watt replacement which
uses 5 watts -- whereas a compact fluorescent would
require maybe 20 W. IOW, it could be 4 time more
efficient than the best a compact fluorescent, 

> Every so often I pop in on the Stiffler discussion
thread, and find it has thinned out a lot, with
wanderings into calorimetry... 

Yes, true. That is because Ron is firmly convinced
that there is electrical-->heat OU in his newer
circuit. Maybe so. It all depends on how accurate his
P-in measurement is.

He will need to convince Scott Little of that,
however, before many other people jump on the
bandwagon. And Scott will not be easy to sway without
a robust anomaly. If he sees something slightly OU, he
may feel compelled to "recalibrate" the MOAC <g>

We will see...

Jones





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