[NewCandle] that which reacteth not and is clear

Horace Heffner hheffner at mtaonline.net
Mon Feb 25 21:02:38 EST 2008


It will be cool if that works out for you, but I expect there is a  
need to break the symmetry somehow, maybe by use of a flowing  
medium.  Here's an approach I came up with some time ago, but there  
is too little justification to try it:

http://mtaonline.net/~hheffner/ZPE-CasimirThrust.pdf

Perhaps the chambers could be scaled up if an aluminum slurry were  
pumped through them.  The ideal situation would be to use a  
compressible fluid so the effective gap (mfp) size changes selectively.

Say, if your liquid approach works,  I know gelatin gells with  
alcohol, so maybe it, or some gelling substance that is UV  
transparent, works with one of your solvents, in which case you could  
make a solid. Hmmm, there is a UV transparent acrylic sheet available  
from Cadillac Plastics, if they are still in business, because I  
bought some many years ago to make a window I could suntan behind  
here in Alaska in the middle of winter.  It might be possible to make  
a UV transparent plastic binder by dissolving some of it.   Maybe  
cycanoacrylate (crazy glue) works fine as is - or diluted somewhat.   
Just free associating...



On Feb 25, 2008, at 4:37 PM, Nick Reiter wrote:

> Hi Horace and Keith,
>
> Thanks both for the ideas.  I guess I have an
> assortment of candidates then, at my disposal, as I
> have acetone, benzene, and ethanol in decent purity,
> and xylene in not as decent purity.
>
> The idea comes on the heels of noticing that "Uncle"
> Al Schwartz appears to have re-aligned himself behind
> the casimatter concept again, which at first he
> trumpeted and then poopoo'ed about 3 years ago.  I was
> daft in not saving the link, but I saw it being
> bantered about seriously on a Casimir and Vacuum
> discussion board a couple of weeks ago.  Schwartz
> original suggested structure was to build up many
> layers of aluminum films spaced with about a half UV
> wavelength worth of mag fluoride, which is UV
> transparent past 250nm.  Last year, I made about a 10
> fold version of this by thermal evap on glass, but far
> too few layers to really do much with.
>
> OTOH, I got to thinking that if one swirled up
> aluminum spherules suspended in a UV transparent
> vehicle, one might produce an aggregate transient
> casimatter "negative energy density" mass condition.
>
> The experiment I am anxious to try would be to take a
> sealed flask with nano or micro - Al in say benzene or
> ethanol, swirl it up into a whirling state, weigh it,
> then take re-weigh readings as the particles settle
> out into a quiescent pile.
>
> And then hook it to the LEDs.
>
> Just kidding on that last.
>
> Thanks again, guys,
>
> N
>
>
> --- Horace Heffner <hheffner at mtaonline.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Feb 25, 2008, at 12:13 PM, Nick Reiter wrote:
>>
>>> Hey folks,
>>>
>>> I need some materials selection advice.  The topic
>> is
>>> a casimatter experiment, liquid phase.
>>>
>>> Are there any (hopefully low viscosity) liquid
>>> compounds that:
>>>
>>> 1.  Would be able to non-reactively suspend /
>> enclose
>>> micron to submicron spherules of aluminum...
>>>
>>> AND
>>>
>>> 2.  Have as low an absorption or high a
>> transparency
>>> as possible, out past 250nm heading blue-ward.
>>>
>>
>> Since scintillation counting occurs in the UV range,
>> solvents used
>> for that purpose are probably ideal.  Benzene,
>> and/or toluene are
>> commonly used as solvents for liquid scintillation
>> counting, as well
>> as fluorobenzene or xylene,  separately or in
>> mixtures.
>>
>>
>> Horace Heffner
>> http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
>>
>>
>>
>>
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